Don´t buy iDevAffiliate soft

[priidik]

I think save $100 and do not even look at iDevAffiliate.
It is crap. It is not working with GeoClassifieds.

Maybe somebody can change my mind.

I would like to set up a webmaster program:

I want to track ad palcements (Free ads) and pay webmasters a small fee when somebody clicks my ads in their websites and palces Free Ads.

[danzo]

You probably need to write to geosupport to fix things...about your findings...because it is suppose to work with idevaffiliate...
Also any word from idevaffiliate on this too?

[dmc]

I think save $100 and do not even look at iDevAffiliate.
It is crap. It is not working with GeoClassifieds.

Maybe somebody can change my mind.

I would like to set up a webmaster program:

I want to track ad palcements (Free ads) and pay webmasters a small fee when somebody clicks my ads in their websites and palces Free Ads.

I think you need to raise a support ticket with Geo - I have had an open tick with no input from iDevDirect since the 3rd FYI - not overley impressed.

[identity]

I finally got mine to work, although it only seems to be catching sales through my merchant account processing, but not PayPal.

As for iDevDirect, I had 2-3 tickets opened and all were closed with no response. I only used it due to the integration into Geo. Personally, I think Geo should either implement their own tracking (I still thinking an even more powerful and accurate version could be done using Groups... why rely on unreliable cookies when you don't need to!?) or select a different partner.... after all, we are judged by the company we keep and I would hate to see Geo's reputation tarnished by another company that should be put out of business.

To Geo's credit, though they easily could have said I needed to work with iDevDirect, they actually helped me quite a bit in testing and getting the affiliate script up and running.

I think there is a lot more negative info to be found about iDevAffiliate but it is hard to find... due to the use of idevaffiliate.php in the links, any search for it pulls up pages of users of the script... great way to make yourself look really popular and also hide any negative comments. Not saying this was all planned, perhaps just a benefit.

[dmc]

I finally got mine to work, although it only seems to be catching sales through my merchant account processing, but not PayPal.

As for iDevDirect, I had 2-3 tickets opened and all were closed with no response. I only used it due to the integration into Geo. Personally, I think Geo should either implement their own tracking (I still thinking an even more powerful and accurate version could be done using Groups... why rely on unreliable cookies when you don't need to!?) or select a different partner.... after all, we are judged by the company we keep and I would hate to see Geo's reputation tarnished by another company that should be put out of business.

To Geo's credit, though they easily could have said I needed to work with iDevDirect, they actually helped me quite a bit in testing and getting the affiliate script up and running.

I think there is a lot more negative info to be found about iDevAffiliate but it is hard to find... due to the use of idevaffiliate.php in the links, any search for it pulls up pages of users of the script... great way to make yourself look really popular and also hide any negative comments. Not saying this was all planned, perhaps just a benefit.

What were the problems you had and who is the merchant account provider?

[identity]

Not even sure.

All of my first tests were with PayPal, which still doesn't seem to work.
They would show up, but with an error and no commission factored, so I would have to manually input a commission and approve.

As soon as I had my MA (Authorize.net through CDGcommerce), the affiliate tracking was working.... but I had also reinstalled, so now I really have no idea whether it would have worked before and it is something to do with tracking and PP or what. Except now, they don't even register with an error for PP as a sale or even a traffic hit.

I had also read on a blog post where someone was having trouble testing because they were testing under the same IP as the affiliate account. Still no confirmation that this is true or not, but I do consider it rather alarming since my site is locally focused, and given that most people don't have static IP's, this might mean that a lot of potential commissions won't be counted since IP's might match up... but there may be a lot more to this such as the cookies on the same machine, etc.

The only one who could probably confirm this would be iDevDirect... lots of luck there. Either way, I think there should be the option to determine whether affiliate commissions could be earned for the affiliates own purchases or not, which would be what preventing tracking on the same IP would be for.

The ironic part is that there is no need for any of this. To make a purchase on Geo, you must be logged in. The fact that you are logged in means there should be a 100% ability to link any sales of that member to a partner or affiliate based on the group that member is on. Whole issue and uncertainty resolved just like that.

And with more and more people concerned about cookies (though often doesn't represent the fear they think it does) and learning how to clear them or having or using multiple computers... work and home, desktop and laptop, etc., I really don't like basing a system on something so fragile as a cookie being set, never being cleared, and the user always placing their ads on that machine... unless your plan is "yes, we have an affiliate program, but hopefully there are enough hurdles that we may never end up paying you for helping to promote us."

[dmc]

What other scripts are there:

I just been looking at these guys and look - gasp - a support forum...

http://www.qualityunit.com/postaffiliatepro/post-affiliate-support.html

[identity]

That might have been the one that I saw after I purchased iDev that I thought looked very promising.... don't recall now. I know there are quite a few listed on some of the script sites like hotscripts.com.

[dmc]

Intresting list of reviews on HotScripts - one that covers the PayPal problem.

http://www.hotscripts.com/review/31611.html

[dmc]

I just went and bought Post Affliate Pro (v3.0) as it's on special offer until the end of the week - $89 - my logic I dont need to be thinking about the affliate program as I have enough to do pre and post launch.

DC

[danzo]

How does this PosAffiliatetPro compared to idevAffiliate?
Does it works with geo? or as integrated as idev?




I just went and bought Post Affliate Pro (v3.0) as it's on special offer until the end of the week - $89 - my logic I dont need to be thinking about the affliate program as I have enough to do pre and post launch.

DC

[dmc]

How does this PosAffiliatetPro compared to idevAffiliate?
Does it works with geo? or as integrated as idev?




I just went and bought Post Affliate Pro (v3.0) as it's on special offer until the end of the week - $89 - my logic I dont need to be thinking about the affliate program as I have enough to do pre and post launch.

DC

I've not tried yet but it seems to be an easy process with 2CO and PayPal - You can always use a hidden image on the thank you page as well.

http://www.qualityunit.com/help/

Has more info and all the source is open so you can hack if you've any problems with Cookie conflicts etc (as well as a user forum!)

[danzo]

Oh thats great to hear. Now it adds one more choices for geo...


Keep posted.



How does this PosAffiliatetPro compared to idevAffiliate?
Does it works with geo? or as integrated as idev?




I just went and bought Post Affliate Pro (v3.0) as it's on special offer until the end of the week - $89 - my logic I dont need to be thinking about the affliate program as I have enough to do pre and post launch.

DC

I've not tried yet but it seems to be an easy process with 2CO and PayPal - You can always use a hidden image on the thank you page as well.

http://www.qualityunit.com/help/

Has more info and all the source is open so you can hack if you've any problems with Cookie conflicts etc (as well as a user forum!)

[dmc]

Willd o.

For those who can be arsed:

Jim Webster
+1 661 254 1292
alexa@idevdirect.com

Ifomation from: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000AKGFS/103-7987530-1671061?v=glance

[danzo]

Saw that they also have a service to submit top affiliate directories for you...


I just went and bought Post Affliate Pro (v3.0) as it's on special offer until the end of the week - $89 - my logic I dont need to be thinking about the affliate program as I have enough to do pre and post launch.

DC

[danzo]

Hi,

Can you enlighten on how the integration of geo with idevaff works...
I saw some settings needed inside geo gca....
not sure how easy to duplicate such integration with another sw like postaffpro, or such integration is needless...

BTW, is your paypal ipn problem resolved?
and is the source codes open for mods?

Cheers.



Not even sure.

All of my first tests were with PayPal, which still doesn't seem to work.
They would show up, but with an error and no commission factored, so I would have to manually input a commission and approve.

As soon as I had my MA (Authorize.net through CDGcommerce), the affiliate tracking was working.... but I had also reinstalled, so now I really have no idea whether it would have worked before and it is something to do with tracking and PP or what. Except now, they don't even register with an error for PP as a sale or even a traffic hit.

I had also read on a blog post where someone was having trouble testing because they were testing under the same IP as the affiliate account. Still no confirmation that this is true or not, but I do consider it rather alarming since my site is locally focused, and given that most people don't have static IP's, this might mean that a lot of potential commissions won't be counted since IP's might match up... but there may be a lot more to this such as the cookies on the same machine, etc.

The only one who could probably confirm this would be iDevDirect... lots of luck there. Either way, I think there should be the option to determine whether affiliate commissions could be earned for the affiliates own purchases or not, which would be what preventing tracking on the same IP would be for.

The ironic part is that there is no need for any of this. To make a purchase on Geo, you must be logged in. The fact that you are logged in means there should be a 100% ability to link any sales of that member to a partner or affiliate based on the group that member is on. Whole issue and uncertainty resolved just like that.

And with more and more people concerned about cookies (though often doesn't represent the fear they think it does) and learning how to clear them or having or using multiple computers... work and home, desktop and laptop, etc., I really don't like basing a system on something so fragile as a cookie being set, never being cleared, and the user always placing their ads on that machine... unless your plan is "yes, we have an affiliate program, but hopefully there are enough hurdles that we may never end up paying you for helping to promote us."

[identity]

They are still working on the PP issue.

As for the code, looks like it is all open, but there is one file at least, don't remember which one, that is all encoded.

I'm not really sure how integrated it is... certainly it is a little more plug in and go, I guess, but I'm not all that certain... other than the settings in Geo, and then selecting either Geo Classifieds or Geo Auctions... with GCA I just picked one and hoped it worked... but otherwise, there doesn't seem to be anything particularly customized or different within the idevaffiliate script. I was really expecting more, but take a look at their demo and that is the same as you'll see running with Geo.

I think the qualityunit one above even mentioned they would install and integrate it into your site if need be... at least if that is the one I was thinking about and I read/remember correctly. For the price and that alone, I'd probably go with them if I had to do it all over again. As it is, I am always going to be wondering when this script is going to quite working, which seems to be an issue based on many of the posts elsewhere I've read. You might even be able to get Geo to collaborate with them and at least be able to offer an alternative or replace iDevDirect entirely and just provide some form of legacy code for previous purchasers, sort of a victims services type deal.

I'm lucky that Geo has been so helpful, but it is a shame that I need to rely on them to test and resolve issues with a script that isn't even theirs! I've gotten more help and better support with free, open source scripts than I have with iDevAffiliate.

[mal]

There's a site at

http://www.affiliate-software-review.com/home

That compare's Affiliate Software, might be useful for someone.

[asr_guy]

Thanks for the referral Mal. I have had fairly good response from idevaffiliate in the past and also bought their script for another venture of mine. Lately though I have given idevaffiliate a yellow card - sorry still have the World Cup in my head :) It's discussed somewhat on my forum.

I can give a good recommendation for Quality Unit and their php/mysql script Post Affiliate Pro. Their custom work has also been appreciated by a client of mine. It's reviewed on my site and you can compare the two of them side-by-side.

I'm a bit new to Geodesic's product so I can't comment on whether these products make sense re the original thread.

regards,
Peter

[dmc]

Thanks for the referral Mal. I have had fairly good response from idevaffiliate in the past and also bought their script for another venture of mine. Lately though I have given idevaffiliate a yellow card - sorry still have the World Cup in my head :) It's discussed somewhat on my forum.

I can give a good recommendation for Quality Unit and their php/mysql script Post Affiliate Pro. Their custom work has also been appreciated by a client of mine. It's reviewed on my site and you can compare the two of them side-by-side.

I'm a bit new to Geodesic's product so I can't comment on whether these products make sense re the original thread.

regards,
Peter

Might be the classic - now you bought it they kinda lose intrest in you that I found with iDevDirect - I also sent a email asking for a refund seing as they coundn'y giva a s*** about me anymore - strangly no response as yet - Post Affiliate Pro - very good so far (and as I said - a support forum!)

[danzo]

How's the integration of PostAffPro with Geo so far?
Did you managed to make use of the in-built iDev variables inside geo for listing transactions to integrate tightly with PostAffPro...?



Thanks for the referral Mal. I have had fairly good response from idevaffiliate in the past and also bought their script for another venture of mine. Lately though I have given idevaffiliate a yellow card - sorry still have the World Cup in my head :) It's discussed somewhat on my forum.

I can give a good recommendation for Quality Unit and their php/mysql script Post Affiliate Pro. Their custom work has also been appreciated by a client of mine. It's reviewed on my site and you can compare the two of them side-by-side.

I'm a bit new to Geodesic's product so I can't comment on whether these products make sense re the original thread.

regards,
Peter

Might be the classic - now you bought it they kinda lose intrest in you that I found with iDevDirect - I also sent a email asking for a refund seing as they coundn'y giva a s*** about me anymore - strangly no response as yet - Post Affiliate Pro - very good so far (and as I said - a support forum!)

[dmc]

Still working on it - Post Affiliate Pro (PAP) intergrates directly with 2CO so it doesn't enen touch Geo which is nice.

http://www.qualityunit.com/help/index.php?pcid=_&psid=3cca5001be&iid=d745bcc6b1


It just calls the PAP script on our site (with the ability to fully debug!) and credits the account.

I've written some code for the PayPay 'thank you' page that calls the PAP confirm routine though I haven't tested that as I have some further issues with PayPal intergration with our site (but I might just drop PP for the moment for an easy life)

More details to follow...

[danzo]

The problem with using 2CO and Paypal thank you page is that all top-up to Site-Balance will be counted into commissions as well...even though site-balance is not actually utilized to buy listings and features yet...
Have you tried using the renaming the idev variables inside to scripts to pass them over to postaffpro's use for tighter integration?


Still working on it - Post Affiliate Pro (PAP) intergrates directly with 2CO so it doesn't enen touch Geo which is nice.

http://www.qualityunit.com/help/index.php?pcid=_&psid=3cca5001be&iid=d745bcc6b1


It just calls the PAP script on our site (with the ability to fully debug!) and credits the account.

I've written some code for the PayPay 'thank you' page that calls the PAP confirm routine though I haven't tested that as I have some further issues with PayPal intergration with our site (but I might just drop PP for the moment for an easy life)

More details to follow...

[dmc]

The problem with using 2CO and Paypal thank you page is that all top-up to Site-Balance will be counted into commissions as well...even though site-balance is not actually utilized to buy listings and features yet...
Have you tried using the renaming the idev variables inside to scripts to pass them over to postaffpro's use for tighter integration?


Still working on it - Post Affiliate Pro (PAP) intergrates directly with 2CO so it doesn't enen touch Geo which is nice.

http://www.qualityunit.com/help/index.php?pcid=_&psid=3cca5001be&iid=d745bcc6b1


It just calls the PAP script on our site (with the ability to fully debug!) and credits the account.

I've written some code for the PayPay 'thank you' page that calls the PAP confirm routine though I haven't tested that as I have some further issues with PayPal intergration with our site (but I might just drop PP for the moment for an easy life)

More details to follow...

That was just for the PayPal thank you page as 2CO calls the PAP script directly.

I actually switched and am now using the Paypal IPN page to call the PAP scriptbit thats still work in progress.

We dont really use site balances on the site.

DC

[cherubini]

I almost bought idev but I like to research everywhere to make sure I make the best decision. If you are thinking of buying idev search around for reviews and you will find tons of very unhappy people.

NO SUPPORT AT ALL!
NO FORUM!

I contacted them ready to buy that day and had one small question ...never did get an answer and they closed the ticket! If they won't even answer someone ready to give them money just think what they do after they get your money.

I bought PostAffPro before I even got Geo and it seems like it will do wonderfully although I haven't integrated it yet.

My $0.02

[Big Island]

So are there any updates on this? Does iDev and geo work together correctly now?

[rondawes]

I'm planning to ad affiliates in the future and would also like to know how thing stand with this.

iDevAffiliate 5 looks good on their web site but is anyone using it in the real world? How about the other affiliate management programs?

Will there be any changes with Geo 4.0 that will affect iDev or the other affiliate management scripts mentioned above?

Thanks.

[jonyo]

...
Will there be any changes with Geo 4.0 that will affect iDev or the other affiliate management scripts mentioned above?

Thanks.

From the Geo software's side of things, we've already ported IDev to work in the upcoming Geo 4.0, however it will require one of our beta testers to confirm whether it is fully functional (once 4.0 beta is released), since we don't have an easy way to test in in our lab. I can't speak on the merits of IDev since I don't have much experience with them, besides what I've done to make our software talk to theirs, so someone else that uses or has used IDev in the past will have to reply about that.

[noveltyisland]

i did not see this toipc untill to late

also cant get idev to work with pp or manual payments

[alwaystobe23]

Well hmm, yep, I checked around online and others were saying same thing. Lack of post-sales support, script not working etc etc.

[guillopuig]

I will (hopefully) have Post Affiliate Pro fully integrated with our Geodesic site in a week or so. (I CANT WAIT) it has been a little rough to get everything to work together but the Quality Unit People have been great with support and even getting (almost) everything done for us. It was delayed a bit as I needed to get some code reworked on our geodesic site first.

I have already used the admin side of the software and IT IS AMAZING! I have already also integrated the per click affiliate program. It credits our affiliates accurately and even allows for multi tier affiliates, where an affiliates recommends someone to our affiliate system.

I Recommend it now... and will highly recommend in a week from now, when all is completely integrated. I will be reporting back shortly to update everyone.

If you are interested in Post Affiliate Pro please follow my affiliate link here:
http://www.qualityunit.com/postaffiliatepro/network/.

I will greatly appreciate it.

[guillopuig]

I have fully integrated Post Affiliate Pro.

It was easier than I though.

Anyone interested in my assistance please contact me. Id need you to only purchase it through my affiliate link. I can send you the affiliate link through private message.

[littlerhody]

Post Affiliate Pro replaced Idev for a program I was promoting. I knew I was losing a bunch of commissions due to Idev, as was 1000's of others who were complaining.

After switching to Post Affiliate Pro it was like night and day.
The tracking is far superior and in more detail.

[jonyo]

FYI I am working on Post Affiliate Pro addon that will make it easy to integrate the Geo software with Post Affiliate Pro, similar to how the IDev integration works, but in the form of an addon rather than built into the core. Currently the plan is to provide this as a free addon, available for download in public downloads section, but that is subject to change depending on how much work it ends up taking to code the thing by the time I'm done with it. Keep your eye on the admin home page, at the "news" section as we'll be posting a new article once it is available.

:mrgreen:

[jonyo]

New Post Affiliate Pro Integration Addon, now available for download FREE in the public downloads (https://geodesicsolutions.com/geo_store/customers/index.php?task=downloads) section on the site!

We've had one tester confirm that the addon works (Thanks @guillopuig! :-) ), it is labeled as "beta" for now until we have a few more confirmations that the addon works properly.

If you try the addon, and have already added some of the integration for Post Affiliate Pro 4 to templates and such, you will need to remove that integration to use the addon (or you will have duplicate integration running on the page). The addon is pretty straight forward: Download/unzip, upload, install/enable in admin, enter in settings in admin panel, and it's good to go!

Anyone that tries the addon, please post a reply here or send us an e-mail and let us know how it works! As soon as we have a few more confirmations that the addon works we'll remove the "beta" label.

:mrgreen:

[xena4635]

I'm not sure I understand how to take this thread.... I almost hit the "purchase" button for iDevAffiliate and then I seen this post.
The last post on this was back in March, and there is nothing more about it (unless I'm missing something).
I really need to launch an affiliate program but I don't want to spend $100 on something that sucks, especially if there is something better out there that will work with GEO.

Can someone please confirm what's going on with the affiliate programs?

Thanks!

[xena4635]

What I mean is.... is this fully working now? I'm downloading it and will try it...just wondering if it's still in beta or if it's considered a stable add-on at this point??? And it's better than iDev???


New Post Affiliate Pro Integration Addon, now available for download FREE in the public downloads (https://geodesicsolutions.com/geo_store/customers/index.php?task=downloads) section on the site!

We've had one tester confirm that the addon works (Thanks @guillopuig! :-) ), it is labeled as "beta" for now until we have a few more confirmations that the addon works properly.

If you try the addon, and have already added some of the integration for Post Affiliate Pro 4 to templates and such, you will need to remove that integration to use the addon (or you will have duplicate integration running on the page). The addon is pretty straight forward: Download/unzip, upload, install/enable in admin, enter in settings in admin panel, and it's good to go!

Anyone that tries the addon, please post a reply here or send us an e-mail and let us know how it works! As soon as we have a few more confirmations that the addon works we'll remove the "beta" label.

:mrgreen:

[jonyo]

As far as we know, the Post Affiliate Pro integration works fine, and if not you can start a ticket with us to get it fixed. As for the affiliate software itself, something to consider is no one has spoken up for IDev in this thread saying they use it and like it, but 2 so far have said they no longer use it and use PaP now and love it. So take that info into consideration. Also take into consideration this isn't a "review site", and you are only hearing from 2 people, personally I would recommend to look at "review sites" to see what people say about both software. Just know that the Geo software will integrate with which-ever software you choose, and if you find any problems with the integration itself we can help with that.

Also perhaps see if either/both options offer any sort of "free trials" so you can try each of them out and decide for yourself.

[xena4635]

Thanks Jonyo... I did go ahead and get a basic hosted affiliate software package from PaP. I took the GEO communities reviews more to heart because of our shared interest of use. I never used an affiliate program before...it looks very complicated LOL.
I'm going through the learning curve... I have not tested it yet, but I do have the add-on installed on my GEO site.

I got a little confused as to the "folder" thing in the settings within GEO for this add-on and then realized that the first one is if you actually install the license on your own server... so I used the second option setting where you give the url to your affiliate account and it looks to be ok. If I have any issues with what appears to be integration problems, I'll send a ticket.

Thanks :-)

[jonyo]

Thanks Jonyo... I did go ahead and get a basic hosted affiliate software package from PaP. I took the GEO communities reviews more to heart because of our shared interest of use. I never used an affiliate program before...it looks very complicated LOL.
I'm going through the learning curve... I have not tested it yet, but I do have the add-on installed on my GEO site.

I got a little confused as to the "folder" thing in the settings within GEO for this add-on and then realized that the first one is if you actually install the license on your own server... so I used the second option setting where you give the url to your affiliate account and it looks to be ok. If I have any issues with what appears to be integration problems, I'll send a ticket.

Thanks :-)

With that option, do you actually have PAP4 installed on your own site? One of the requirements of the integration built into the addon is that you have the PAP4 installed, I'm not familiar enough with what options they provide to know whether what you chose will work or not with the integration. All I can say for sure is what it says on the wiki page (http://geodesicsolutions.com/support/wiki/addons/pap_integrate/start), that it requires Post Affiliate Pro 4 to be installed on your site as it actually uses files that are part of that software (specifically, the API that is provided).

[xena4635]

Yeah, I know, I screwed up. But their license is $200 and I really didn't want to spend that on something I had no idea would work well or not or if it would actually help generate sales. I liked their hosted option, and when I talked to the rep on their website I specifically asked this question...he said it would work with their "hosted software" which starts at just $19 a month. When I seen the second option in the GEO admin asking for the url...I thought Oh cool..ok so it works with either having the license installed on the server or their hosting package... They said they would credit whatever I had paid monthly toward the price of a license if and when I became ready to purchase the it. Here I thought I was getting a good deal... LOL Oh well.